• @plyth@feddit.org
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    this time, there won’t be any outside help

    There wasn’t outside help for Germany either. Until the war, the disabled, socialists, lgbtq and colored people will live in terror, if at all.

    There is still an outside. China has to be contained. There will be war. If China wins, and depending on how much our image of China is propaganda, that could be liberation.

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        Don’t you think that what is going to come will be worse than what is happening in China? At least they don’t try to undo science.

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          94 hours ago

          Jfc, “at least it’s not as bad” is a horrendous excuse to endorse a government that has committed genocide.

          How about you grow a spine and reject fascism properly instead of just rebounding from one authoritarian to another.

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            Trail of Death Tears. We have been endorsing such a government all the time, which made the recent development possible instead of giving them the opportunity to change.

            How would you create a government that doesn’t concentrate power permanently in a group of people in some form or another?

        • trollercoaster
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          25 hours ago

          Right, they only undo science when it makes the government look bad, like during a certain pandemic in the recent past.

          • @plyth@feddit.org
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            What did they do? And does that outweight the fascism that we can expect for us?

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              They did suppress early reports on the coronavirus by Chinese medical personnel and scientists, (including arrests of people who spoke out) allowing the (initially localised) epidemic to grow into a worldwide pandemic due to belated and half arsed response pretty much everywhere.

              Also, China is spiraling increasingly towards a fascist regime as well. Their “communist” party is communist in nothing but name.

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                Also, China is spiraling increasingly towards a fascist regime as well. Their “communist” party is communist in nothing but name.

                You can* be communist alongside being authoritarian without necessarily being fascist. What makes you say they’re spiralling towards that?

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                  Increasing nationalism, ethnic cleansing. Also privately owned corporations.

                  • Norah (pup/it/she)
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                    22 hours ago

                    Yeah fair, the privately-owned corporations is definitely counter to communist ideology. I think the ethnic cleansing has always been around in a sense. Religion has been suppressed, as has languages other than mandarin, like cantonese.

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                No. I know they do many rejectable things but I am aware of none that undermines science.

                Even the corona report suppression is not undermining science itself.